Systems biology and sciencePosted by Gunnar Cedersund Mon, March 04, 2019 00:51:15
In my work as a scientist, one of the possible tasks I can take upon
myself is to be a reviewer. This is important, but almost completely
non-valued; there is no pay, and no funding agency cares very much whether you do it or not. However, the review process is the most important place where scientific
discussions are taking place, because currently - and unfortunately -
this is virtually the only criteria for what constitutes a scientific finding
today: has it been published in a peer-reviewed journal? I therefore do
spend some time doing this. And I fight a lot of the time with papers
and authors who want to publish mathematical modelling works without any
comparison with experimental data. I strongly believe that such works
are not science, and that they should not be published. Today, I just
submitted such a response, and since the reply is written in a
completely non-specific manner to the paper in question - it could have
been written to any paper with the same problem - I also post it here.
My principle for the the next decade of my life, which I just entered,
is "going public, going deep", and this publishing of this here on the blog, is a
part of me following that new principle.
Here is the review reply that I wrote:
"Thank you for your comments.
I do recognize the fact that you and others have published similar
papers in the past, where models have been developed and presented with
no comparison with data. There is nothing I can do about that. However,
that fact does not transform such works into science. Modern science is,
in my very firm opinion, the truth-seeking tool that was established by
Galileo, many hundreds of years ago: it builds on i) the mathematical
formalization of mechanistic hypotheses of the system that you study,
and then ii) usage of *data* to distinguish between those hypotheses.
The hypothesis that has the best ability at describing data - in the
first round estimation data, and in the second round independent
validation data, based on predictions and *then* experiments - is the
superior hypothesis. It is this formula for truth-seeking that
distinguished the science that started with Galileo, and the
church-driven epistemology that ruled science before him (note that the
prior Aristotelian science worldview also involved mathematics, and
data, but not in the same hypothesis-testing manner). If Galileo’s
formula is not followed, it is not science. That a paper has been
published in a scientific journal does not make that work science. It
does mean, however, that that work *should not* have been published. The
only exception to that principle exists within the field of
mathematics, which has other criteria for its judgements of a paper:
e.g. that what is presented should be i) previously non-proven and ii)
should hold true for a large family of equations/examples. Another type
of paper in mathematics can be that of a new method, e.g. for
optimization, that is proven to be superior to existing methods.
Unfortunately, this conception of what science is was lost in the field
of modelling of biological systems during a large part of the 20th
century. During this time, it was called mathematical biology,
complexity theory, etc. This was, to a large extent, rectified, during
the beginning of the 21st century, with the conception of systems
biology. However, unfortunately, much old-school data-free modelling is
still done. This has to stop! It is giving, and has been giving, the
field of modelling in biology a bad reputation, with the impression that
it has nothing to do with reality or biology – and rightly so, such
modelling has nothing to do with reality! At least not in any way that
has been demonstrated by science.
Two further clarifications and responses to your reply are in order:
i) You say that your model is based on data. That is true. The model structure is based on data. Your manuscript does
therefore function as a review of existing biology. But that is
something different than publishing an original research paper, with
novel results. That is something that is fundamentally different than
the kind of comparison between simulations of the *entire model
structure* and data that I am referring to above. It is a bit like
saying that the Ptolemaic worldview (with the sun in the middle) is
based on data because it includes the sun, the planets, and the earth;
which are observed in experiments. The question is not if they are
present. The question is which way of connecting them in relationship to
each other that is the correct one. To go beyond what can be said with
biology alone – i.e. to do mathematical modelling – requires that one
puts the structure together using competing hypotheses (e.g. one with
the sun in the middle, and one with the earth in the middle), and then
sees which of the two corresponding models that produces simulations
that best agrees with data (existing data and future data). That is how
science has functioned since Galileo, and that is how it should still
ii) You say that a model component
in your model – that has not been validated in any fashion whatsoever –
produces a prediction that a specific component is important; you then
also point to some papers that claim the same thing. That could, on
the surface, seem like a comparison with data. However, with the model
structure that you have put together – with the most well-known and most
often considered main players in the beta cell ethiology – you could
identify any component in your model as the most important one, and then
find many papers that claim that that component is the most important
one. That is, unfortunately, how biology is allowed to work today, with
many co-existing hypotheses, that are allowed to continue to co-exist,
where each lab focusing on one of the components is allowed to point to
limited results as to why their particular component is the most
important one, and without forcing anyone to challenge these claims with
respect to each other; without finding out what the big picture looks
like. That is where systems biology can and should come in and make a
difference: by putting up alternative hypotheses regarding what is the
most important component(s), and then letting data, systems-level data,
judge which of the hypotheses that is the most compelling one. This is
how systems biology has worked in many/most of the papers that are cited
in the review paper that I gave you. That way requires a model that
produces simulations (time-curves, typically), that agrees with
estimation data, and with validation data.
In summary, for me to
judge this or any paper as publishable, you need to produce (at least)
these two things: i) at least one curve, e.g. a simulation of a variable
as it progresses in time, that agrees with corresponding data; ii) a
prediction that is validated by another dataset, not used for estimating
the parameters in the model. In fact, apart from that you should also
demonstrate that your model is superior to other models, i.e. that it
can describe all data that one of the currently most important and
realistic models can, and then more data apart from that.
other words, there are many papers that are published for beta-cells,
including for their ethiology. These models can describe a lot of data,
in the above manner. Why not take one of those models, find a feature or
dataset that they cannot explain (there are many), and then go ahead
and improve the model to make it able to explain those data (while still
retaining the ability to explain all old data). If you then also show
that this is not due to overfitting w.r.t. all data, i.e. if you then
show that your new model also can describe some validation data, not
used for model fitting, then you will have contributed with an
improvement that follows the tradition of science. Then, and only then, I
will judge your – or any scientist’s – paper as publishable.
EventsPosted by ISB Group Wed, January 23, 2019 14:53:04
Lesshammar defended her master thesis project: ‘Mathematical modelling of TLR4-activated
macrophages in inflammation’. The project aimed to use a model-based approach to
investigate the synthesis and release of
cytokines from macrophages during inflammation and also when inflammatory
response is suppressed by anti-inflammatory drugs. The models Ellen constructed
have the potential of being further refined and extended to include other
aspects of inflammation and might thus hold the possibility to contribute to
the further understanding of inflammation and how it can be the root cause to
several common diseases.
The work was done here in the ISB-group but also at the
Linköping based company Wolfram MathCore. We would like to congratulate Ellen on a
job well done, and we wish her luck with all future endeavours!
EventsPosted by ISB Group Mon, December 03, 2018 14:56:21
Nicolas’s master thesis
Last week a member of our group held his master thesis defence. The
member in question was Nicolas who has been doing in his master thesis in our
group, as well as some work prior to that.
Nicolas hold a well-structured and informative presentation of his work
and defended his thesis in a great way.
Nicolas project aimed to characterize the metabolic fluxes of carbon-13
labelled metabolites throughout parts of the metabolic system. The fluxes were
determined from the structure of the metabolites in the end of the metabolic
system. By knowing the reactions in the system and the number of intermediate
products from the inserted labelled metabolites, one can determent the fluxes
between the reactions. This method is called metabolic flux analysis. Although
this is to hard math to do by hand, one can use mathematical modelling.
The second part of Nicolas project was to validate that his model could accurately
predict the quantities of the metabolic fluxes. However, today, there is no
established method for this kind of validation. Nicolas validated his model by the
model’s ability to predict a validation dataset, data that the model have not
seen before. By using this approach, one wish to see how the model react to new
data and judge the model quality by how true the model’s prediction of this
Additionally, the uncertainty of the predictions was analysed with a
profile likelihood analysis. With such predictions, one can place more trust in
fluxes determined by the model. Consequently, this allows for more challenging
issues to be tackled in the development process of new treatments.
With this we want to congratulate Nicolas on his completed master thesis
and wish good luck in the future.
NewsPosted by ISB Group Wed, November 21, 2018 13:20:01
My name is Tilda and I have been in the isb
group before, but this November I started my phd here. I am financed by an EU
project called precise4Q. The project aims at personalising treatment of stroke
by developing model-based decision support systems. I will be working with combining
mechanistic multi-level models and machine learning models.
EventsPosted by ISB Group Wed, November 21, 2018 12:16:27
On November 16th and 17th Gunnar, Elin, William, Tilda, Christian, Kajsa and Jonna attended the 3th national diabetes summit in Stockholm. During
this conference the Karolinska institute was the scene of many interesting conversations,
posters and presentations.
The program consisted of many interesting presentations
covering various aspects of diabetes research. Our group was represented with,
apart from a poster, a very nice talk by Elin. We have had many interesting conversations
with other researchers that may lead to some very nice collaborations. For me
personally the conference was a unique chance to see what kind of diabetes
research is performed in Sweden.
Since the end of November is approaching rapidly my time in
Sweden is almost coming to an end. I look back at a very nice time in Sweden were
I’ve learned a lot about modeling and applications of modeling to the liver.
And of course my new knowledge about things like Fika and warm meals during
EventsPosted by ISB Group Fri, November 16, 2018 13:19:11
Last week we attended the Ph.D defence of Belén Casas, who has worked with our group during her research.
It was a pleasure to listen to the great presentation of her work and her defence. A short description about her work follows below.
Belén’s work aimed at improving the current diagnostic tools in the field of heart diseases. By analysing data gathered from using 4D flow-MRI (a technique with 3D time resolution and phase contrast magnetic resonance imaging) with mathematical models, Belén has developed tools that can be of help to improve a subject specific assessment of a patient’s cardiovascular function.
After a successful defence, there was a celebratory afterwork in Belén’s honour. We want to take our time to congratulate Belén to her well-deserved Ph.D title and wish her good luck in her future work.
Links to published articles
Briding the gap between measurment and modelling: a cardiovascular functional avatar
Non-invasive Assessment of Systolic and Diastolic Cardiac Function During Rest and Stress Conditions Using an Integrated Image-Modelling Approach
NewsPosted by Gunnar Cedersund Sun, October 28, 2018 16:57:59
We have gotten money - and lot's of it!
While on a 6h train ride between Malmö and Stockholm, I at last have time to share some of the good news that have come to us, one after the other, but that I haven't had the time to share with you here until now. The good news is that we have had a series of successful grant applications, which mean that we now have reached a whole new level, in terms of money flows, and that our group will significantly grow in the next 2-3 months.
This new money
flow actually started about a year ago, when I got money for a new 2
year postdoc position from AstraZeneca, i.e. approx 3 MSEK (300 000
USD). In this postdoc, we will create models for a new type of
animal-free experiments, called organ-on-a-chip. In this technique, you
build a system of realistic 3D organs made up of human cells, which are
interconnected by an artificial blood flow. This is a supercool
possibility, which is ideal for both modelling, for replacing animal
experiments, and for understanding diseases.
This grant was then
followed by a new EU project, called PRECISE4Q, which was approved in
January this year. In this project, we will make use of our multi-level
mathematical models for diabetes and cardiovascular disease, to create a
new clinically useful tool. The basis of this tool will be quite
general, and applicable to a wide range of diseases, but the focus will
be on helping patients who have or who are at risk of suffering a
stroke. The total budget of this project is 60 MSEK (approx 6 million
USD), and of that approx 4 MSEK goes to my group (400 000 USD).
After that, during the spring, I used these already approved projects to
write applications about other projects, which could build upon my
already approved projects. And this too has now started to bear fruit.
First off was an application to SSF, the Swedish Foundation for
Strategic Research. They have awarded me and a researcher from
Karolinska Institutet in Stockholm (Roland Nilsson) a grant of 7.5 MSEK
in total, out of which I will receive 3.5 MSEK (~350 000 USD). The topic
of this project is to use my modelling to extract quantitative fluxes
for all of the metabolic reactions in a cell; this is possible because
of Roland's unique experimental skills, where he tags metabolites
outside of the cell with C13 carbon molecules, and then uses mass
spectrometry to measure where these tagged carbon molecules ends up in
all in metabolites inside the cell. We will use these money to both
transform this tool from a big potential to something that is useful in
practice, and then also to apply the technique to understanding both
metabolic diseases and cancer on a new level - useful for both research,
drug development, and diagnosis.
The last major grant we got,
and just a few days ago, this Thursday, was from VR, the Swedish
Research Council. This high-prestige grant builds upon my previous
collaboration with AstraZeneca, and will allow us to spend 4.2 MSEK (420
000 USD) to further strengthen our collaboration with AstraZeneca. More
specifically, we will make use of the new and more complete models
developed within the PRECISE4Q EU network (mentioned above) to
understand how a brand new diabetes drug, dapagliflozin, works, and if,
how, and when it can be used to also treat cardiovascular diseases like
stroke, heart attack, and heart failure. This project will also allow us
to understand more about which patients that should have which
treatments, and more about the different mechanisms at play in the newly
sub-divided grouping of diabetes into 5 sub-types.
One very good
aspect of this new situation is that we are really well-prepared for it.
This is due, in part, to some very useful grants we have gotten from the Swedish Foundation
for Research without Animal Experiments. Using this money, we have been
able to train talented undergraduate students in real research projects,
which they have done in parallel to their M.Sc. studies, by awarding
them scholarships (several of the recent blog posts have been devoted to presenting new such students). These new, and previous old, such quite unique students are now ready and eager
to start as Ph.D. students, and they are much more well-trained than
normal applicants would be, which we could find in normal open
announcements. For this reason, we already now know that we will be able to
fill all of the new positions with really great people, and are therefore
looking much forward to working with for, at least, the next 4-5 years. However, all of the new positions will be announced in open competition, so if you are a great candidate, who wants to join our group, don't hesitate to apply, or to contact me for discussions on joint collaborations or positions.
All in all, it is also a very great feeling to suddenly have such
much money now at our disposal. And also quite humbling. Now we need to
really demonstrate to our funders that we can convert these great money into the equally great
research we have described in our visionary applications. Into research
that will be useful for both other researchers and for those who want to
develop and use new and improved treatments - both treatments such as drugs, and
treatments such as yoga and meditation. It will be great fun to enter this
next step in our group's development!This
is a picture of our group during a recent group meeting. Not all were
there, but most of them were. Some of the people in the picture are
excellent M.Sc. students in the end of their studies, who we now can
offer 2 Ph.D. positions. Apart from that, we will
hire two new people, one new Ph.D. student, and one postdoc, but also those will probably be recruits building on previous collaborations and projects. To help as manage all of these new people, we are also very fortunate that Gunnar's second-in-command in the group, Associate Professor Elin Nyman, now is due to come back after an almost 2.5 year long leave in Harvard,
Portland, and an almost 1 year maternity leave. For all of these
reasons, made possible thanks to the new money described in the post
above, our group will now take a step up to functioning on a new level -
one with more senior people, more people financed fully by the group itself, and with
long-term funding secured. Now we will be able to fully focus on all of
the great research projects we are working on, without worrying if the money will ebb out in the middle of the project!
EventsPosted by ISB Group Fri, October 12, 2018 14:59:02
At the time of writing some members of the ISB-group (Henrik, Kajsa and Gunnar) just returned from attending the retreat of the research network CircM. Here they took part of presentations born from the network, one of which Gunnar took part in. Discussions of how the network can move forward with new ideas and challanges were also a part of the agenda.
We enjoyed the retreat, which took place outside Norrköping, and we are glad that we could take part of the presentations and discussions during the retreat.
Down below we leave you a link if you want to check out CircM and get into contact with the network.https://liu.se/forskning/liu-circm
Regarding the picture down below, the wheater was unaccounted for, and an idea of a picture with Bråviken as background, turned out to be one with a nice forrest background instead.